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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Health Care Snow Job</title>
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	<description>What&#039;s a davintosh? Mostly just the random ramblings of a hopelessly distractible... Hey, what&#039;s that?</description>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davintosh.com/2009/07/23/obamas-health-care-snow-job/comment-page-1/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re not presenting that article in the spirit of, &quot;it&#039;s broke so we must do something to fix it.&quot; In the case of this legislation and Obama&#039;s intentions, inaction would be by far the better course of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re not presenting that article in the spirit of, &#8220;it&#8217;s broke so we must do something to fix it.&#8221; In the case of this legislation and Obama&#8217;s intentions, inaction would be by far the better course of action.</p>
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		<title>By: deane</title>
		<link>http://www.davintosh.com/2009/07/23/obamas-health-care-snow-job/comment-page-1/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>deane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another perfect example:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-07-27-costofobesity_N.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another perfect example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-07-27-costofobesity_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-07-27-costofobesity_N.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davintosh.com/2009/07/23/obamas-health-care-snow-job/comment-page-1/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Deane; had no idea you read this stuff. Most of the time I feel like I&#039;m just talking to myself, so... Wow!

Can&#039;t disagree with you on what you have to say. There are problems in the health care system and the health insurance industry, but the problem I have with Obama&#039;s approach is his sledgehammer approach to the whole thing, and the deception in it all. I have to admit that, after a good night&#039;s sleep and a re-read of what I wrote, I didn&#039;t flesh out my thoughts on some of the topics very well. I started writing that the day of the press conference, intending to give my thoughts of the proposed bill, but got sidetracked and didn&#039;t get back to it until last night. After reading the transcript of the conference, the post ended up being an off-the-cuff reaction to what I&#039;d read, and it shows. 

I&#039;ve got a bit more to say on this subject; not sure if I&#039;ll just append this post or put it in another, but... Soon. I&#039;ve got some time off next week, so maybe I&#039;ll see if I can squeeze that in amongst the arm&#039;s-length honey-do list Yvonne is leaving me while she&#039;s away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Deane; had no idea you read this stuff. Most of the time I feel like I&#8217;m just talking to myself, so&#8230; Wow!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t disagree with you on what you have to say. There are problems in the health care system and the health insurance industry, but the problem I have with Obama&#8217;s approach is his sledgehammer approach to the whole thing, and the deception in it all. I have to admit that, after a good night&#8217;s sleep and a re-read of what I wrote, I didn&#8217;t flesh out my thoughts on some of the topics very well. I started writing that the day of the press conference, intending to give my thoughts of the proposed bill, but got sidetracked and didn&#8217;t get back to it until last night. After reading the transcript of the conference, the post ended up being an off-the-cuff reaction to what I&#8217;d read, and it shows. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a bit more to say on this subject; not sure if I&#8217;ll just append this post or put it in another, but&#8230; Soon. I&#8217;ve got some time off next week, so maybe I&#8217;ll see if I can squeeze that in amongst the arm&#8217;s-length honey-do list Yvonne is leaving me while she&#8217;s away!</p>
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		<title>By: deane</title>
		<link>http://www.davintosh.com/2009/07/23/obamas-health-care-snow-job/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>deane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am against this health care bill, though perhaps not for the same reasons.  My concerns are:

1. The U.S. is out of money, and there&#039;s no way something like this can be revenue-neutral.

2. Very few things in the world have been improved by having the U.S. government take them over.

3. The U.S. is just too big for this to work.  For a smaller nation (think Norway, Sweden, etc.), it works fine.  But it&#039;s just not going to scale to 300 million people.

I&#039;ve blogged in the past about the reasons for rising health care 

1. There&#039;s a general over-utilization of services compared to 20 years ago.

http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/310

2. As a population, Americans are doing a terrible job for caring their own health.  Harsh as it sounds, we&#039;re getting fatter by the day, spending billions of dollars on the consequences, and complaining about it non-stop.

http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/316

However, I bristle a little bit when people say there&#039;s nothing wrong with U.S. health care.

Unless you&#039;ve had to buy health insurance on the open market while parenting a child with health problems, then you can&#039;t say nothing is wrong.  There was a time not long when ago when 1 out of every 5 take-home dollars Annie and I had were going toward health insurance and prescriptions -- things that would be covered by standard employee health plan.  And the insurance sucked.  It was 80/20 with a $5,000 deductible per person.  Our daughter ingested some peanuts and and to go to the hospital.  $8,000 out of pocket.  We could cover it, but there&#039;s a lot of people for which this would have ruined them.

I&#039;ve also been on the other side of this.  My company got a health plan for our employees last year.  It was expensive, but it was the right thing to do.  Our reward for this?  A 35% premium increase to start Year Two.  We were told we can expect something similar for Year Three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am against this health care bill, though perhaps not for the same reasons.  My concerns are:</p>
<p>1. The U.S. is out of money, and there&#8217;s no way something like this can be revenue-neutral.</p>
<p>2. Very few things in the world have been improved by having the U.S. government take them over.</p>
<p>3. The U.S. is just too big for this to work.  For a smaller nation (think Norway, Sweden, etc.), it works fine.  But it&#8217;s just not going to scale to 300 million people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve blogged in the past about the reasons for rising health care </p>
<p>1. There&#8217;s a general over-utilization of services compared to 20 years ago.</p>
<p><a href="http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/310" rel="nofollow">http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/310</a></p>
<p>2. As a population, Americans are doing a terrible job for caring their own health.  Harsh as it sounds, we&#8217;re getting fatter by the day, spending billions of dollars on the consequences, and complaining about it non-stop.</p>
<p><a href="http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/316" rel="nofollow">http://deanebarker.net/blog/post/316</a></p>
<p>However, I bristle a little bit when people say there&#8217;s nothing wrong with U.S. health care.</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;ve had to buy health insurance on the open market while parenting a child with health problems, then you can&#8217;t say nothing is wrong.  There was a time not long when ago when 1 out of every 5 take-home dollars Annie and I had were going toward health insurance and prescriptions &#8212; things that would be covered by standard employee health plan.  And the insurance sucked.  It was 80/20 with a $5,000 deductible per person.  Our daughter ingested some peanuts and and to go to the hospital.  $8,000 out of pocket.  We could cover it, but there&#8217;s a lot of people for which this would have ruined them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been on the other side of this.  My company got a health plan for our employees last year.  It was expensive, but it was the right thing to do.  Our reward for this?  A 35% premium increase to start Year Two.  We were told we can expect something similar for Year Three.</p>
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